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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 22, 2005 8:07pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: PROTEST INFORMATION

sorry, ignore my last post....i'll send the same letter to the GDP address w/each band member's name. Thanks again.

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Nov 22, 2005 9:00pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: PROTEST INFORMATION

Count me in. I'll write and call, they've got to know how betrayed we feel.

I recomend another tact as well. PROTEST OUTSIDE RATDOG AND PHIL & FRIENDS SHOWS IN YOUR AREA. There is nothing within driving distance for me but if there was I'd be leading the way.Set pick lines organize some chant for when the bands take the stage.(maybe Money Honey chorus would do)

Be heard, organize, do more than just vent,but DO vent : )

PS: Thankyou Brewster, and volunteers for all you've done for LAMA, it's unfortunate you have to be the proxy for GDP's treachery. PEACE.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 23, 2005 8:17pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: PROTEST INFORMATION

Here's my letter, for what it's worth:

To all officials at Grateful Dead Productions and Dead.Net,

I'll be writing a more thorough version of this letter directly to GDP and all band members, but basically you can remove me immediately from your mailing list, as I will never again purchase another item of any kind from your site unless the decision to remove hundreds of soundboard quality shows from the Live Music Archive web site is reversed.

One can only assume that GDP decided too many people were getting "freebies" and wanted to monopolize the "market" for shows by taking them away from that excellent site. Well, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, songs I found and downloaded from that site actually led to my decision to PURCHASE many GD discs, from vault releases to Dick's Picks, from GD.NET on numerous occasions and would have led me to do so in the future, but no more.

The cynical greedy nature of this horrendous decision flies in the face of what made the Grateful Dead the most successful touring rock band in history--the availability of freely traded live performances. As someone who attended nearly 100 shows from 1979 til the end, I have spent a lot of money and traveled great distances to support my favorite band, and would never have done so if not initially turned on to the live tapes that circulated so freely among Dead Heads.

The Internet now provides a faster, safer, more accessible service to keep that spirit alive and inspire new devotees to again, PURCHASE the many items available through the official Grateful Dead site. I know of no Dead Head who wishes to bankrupt the official site or objected to shows chosen for Dick's Picks being removed from the archive. We only ask that the shows people took the trouble to tape (with the blessing of the band!) and upload to such sites be available in the spirit with which they were from the beginning--as a free expression of the greatest music ever played before live audiences.

This is a terrible business decision GDP has made, and from the web posts i've seen on the archive, I am far from alone in this protest.

Again: You have lost a devoted customer FOREVER unless this decision is reversed.

If a human being wishes to answer this letter in honesty and forthrightness I welcome a response, otherwise, please remove me immediately from your customer base.

This post was modified by grendelschoice on 2005-11-24 04:17:24

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Poster: dr. flashback Date: Nov 23, 2005 7:40am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: PROTEST INFORMATION

Well written, Grendel, as only an English major can!!
From all I've seen and read today, I think our efforts
could really shake their tree.
I'm really bummed because I didn't get around to
downloading your favorite show - 10/28/77 : (((
to complete my 1977 collection.
Wanna trade?
Happy turkey eating,
Dr. Flashback

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 23, 2005 7:00pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: PROTEST INFORMATION

Thanks, Dr. F...

*sigh* It's all so sad...seems the GDP folks are thinking a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring...to coin a phrase ;-)

anyway, my fave show is actually 10-29-77, just to be exact (i'm not sure they even played on the 28th) but I would be more than happy to burn you a CD copy and send it your way.

Not sure how we contact folks via the archive but if you want to send a private email address or mailing address my way i'll get right on it. EVERYONE should have a high quality copy of the brilliance that occurred at Evan's Fieldhouse that October night in 1977.

Happy Thanksgiving!
GC

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Poster: dr. flashback Date: Nov 30, 2005 2:13pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: PROTEST INFORMATION

Hello Grendel,
And thanks for writing back. Oh, I must have misread your old
post then. Of COURSE I have 11/29/77!! The Estimated>Eyes>
Space>St. Stephen is just over the top!!
All this time I've been thinking, "Geez, how can she think 11/28 is so great when the next night 11/29 is so obviously the standout"??? Ha ha!
Did not get 11/28 from LAMA, may still look for it. Right now busy DLing other SBD's lickety-split (wink, wink) from other places :-))
Wanna know a real funny one? After 2 years of DLing nothing but SBD's from LAMA, my last show DL was the AUD show of
11/8/70!! Kinda ironic and poetic in a strange way. Great show and quality sound, BTW -see my review.
I would really like to trade with you, and also discuss GD related stuff through Email, since LAMA is just overloaded.
I have 1970 through 1977 nearly complete, with a big pile of 1969 as well. Maybe there's something we each got that the other didn't?? Let's trade Emails - but agree to keep them private, cool? I don't want hundreds of people asking me for trades, LOL.
Let me know what shows or years you're needing to fill in. I also have lots of other stuff, ABB, Floyd, Little Feat, Band, Miles Davis and CSNY. Talk to me here - nostradam@earthlink.net. I do miss the old B&P days in a way, you know? Again, your letter was great, better than mine but then I was a music major!
Dr. Flashback

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Poster: markpj Date: Nov 23, 2005 8:01am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: PROTEST INFORMATION

nice job...can i use it myself

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 23, 2005 6:54pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: PROTEST INFORMATION

Please feel free to use the content of my letter if you'd like. Thanks for the thumbs up on it. I don't know how much good it will do but on this Turkey Day let's at least give thanks that we all got to experience in person the musical magnificence that was the Grateful Dead, and that the good folks at the archive let us re-live many of those moments and welcome new ones for the time the shows were available.

Sad stuff indeed, but perhaps we should heed to some extent Jerry's own (or Robert's own!) words: "If all you've got live for/Is what you left behind/Get yourself a powder charge/And seal that silver mine."

That being said--send the letters to the powers that be and let's at least go down swinging!

GC

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Poster: jbphburg Date: Nov 22, 2005 10:39pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: PROTEST INFORMATION

...very disappointing, to put it mildly.

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This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-11-23 06:39:09

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